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		<title>By: Vicki</title>
		<link>http://blog.xcski.com/2003/11/14/sad-end-to-a-beautiful-bird#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a better picture &lt;a href="http://www.wingsoverkansas.com/photos/aircraft/beech-starship.jpg"&gt; of a starship in flight&lt;/a&gt;.  It shows the odd little winglets at the nose better.

I saw one of those go over once.  They were very cool-looking.

Does this mean that they're just out of production, or that they're being made into chicken coops?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a better picture <a href="http://www.wingsoverkansas.com/photos/aircraft/beech-starship.jpg"> of a starship in flight</a>.  It shows the odd little winglets at the nose better.</p>
<p>I saw one of those go over once.  They were very cool-looking.</p>
<p>Does this mean that they&#8217;re just out of production, or that they&#8217;re being made into chicken coops?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tomblin</title>
		<link>http://blog.xcski.com/2003/11/14/sad-end-to-a-beautiful-bird#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tomblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only are they out of production, but they've all been grounded and taken to this storage lot.  I'm not sure if Beech bought them all back or what, but I'm pretty sure they'll never fly again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only are they out of production, but they&#8217;ve all been grounded and taken to this storage lot.  I&#8217;m not sure if Beech bought them all back or what, but I&#8217;m pretty sure they&#8217;ll never fly again.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Gustafson</title>
		<link>http://blog.xcski.com/2003/11/14/sad-end-to-a-beautiful-bird#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Gustafson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many of them were made?  If the ones in the picture are all, then spare parts and maintenance training would become ludicrously expensive, and one major AD would probably ground the whole fleet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many of them were made?  If the ones in the picture are all, then spare parts and maintenance training would become ludicrously expensive, and one major AD would probably ground the whole fleet.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tomblin</title>
		<link>http://blog.xcski.com/2003/11/14/sad-end-to-a-beautiful-bird#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tomblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know, only 52 were built.  I also believe that not all of them were sold.

The current hot selling small piston plane is the Cirrus, which is all-composite like the Starship.  I know that it has a certification limitation that limits them to a very short life.  The older Cirrus, the SR-20, reached that life and the FAA tested a couple and extended the life for the fleet.  They're almost assuredly going to do the same with the newer model, the SR-22.

I wonder if what happened with the Starship, which I think was the first large all-composite plane the FAA certified, was that they did the same thing, but when it came time to recertify them for the longer life, Raytheon/Beech didn't want to spend the money for such a small fleet and chose to ground them instead.  I hope they gave the owners a discount on the King Air, the plane the Starship was supposed to replace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, only 52 were built.  I also believe that not all of them were sold.</p>
<p>The current hot selling small piston plane is the Cirrus, which is all-composite like the Starship.  I know that it has a certification limitation that limits them to a very short life.  The older Cirrus, the SR-20, reached that life and the FAA tested a couple and extended the life for the fleet.  They&#8217;re almost assuredly going to do the same with the newer model, the SR-22.</p>
<p>I wonder if what happened with the Starship, which I think was the first large all-composite plane the FAA certified, was that they did the same thing, but when it came time to recertify them for the longer life, Raytheon/Beech didn&#8217;t want to spend the money for such a small fleet and chose to ground them instead.  I hope they gave the owners a discount on the King Air, the plane the Starship was supposed to replace.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Gustafson</title>
		<link>http://blog.xcski.com/2003/11/14/sad-end-to-a-beautiful-bird#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Gustafson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't know about the time-limited certification.  Probably that helped do the plane in; it would be hard to convince some people to spend $Nmillion on a plane that might turn into a pumpkin in a few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know about the time-limited certification.  Probably that helped do the plane in; it would be hard to convince some people to spend $Nmillion on a plane that might turn into a pumpkin in a few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Borom</title>
		<link>http://blog.xcski.com/2003/11/14/sad-end-to-a-beautiful-bird#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Borom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an article and pictures on a visit to the Starship fleet at Pinal Airpark, go to:

http://4dw.net/marcborom/LongEZ/StarshipPics.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an article and pictures on a visit to the Starship fleet at Pinal Airpark, go to:</p>
<p><a href="http://4dw.net/marcborom/LongEZ/StarshipPics.htm" rel="nofollow">http://4dw.net/marcborom/LongEZ/StarshipPics.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: cliff</title>
		<link>http://blog.xcski.com/2003/11/14/sad-end-to-a-beautiful-bird#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read with great interest of what finally happend to the Beech Starship.  I was working at an airport in Flagler Beach Florida when I had a chance to get up close and personal with a Starship that was parked on the ramp.  What a beautiful airplane.  Now I know their fate ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read with great interest of what finally happend to the Beech Starship.  I was working at an airport in Flagler Beach Florida when I had a chance to get up close and personal with a Starship that was parked on the ramp.  What a beautiful airplane.  Now I know their fate &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://blog.xcski.com/2003/11/14/sad-end-to-a-beautiful-bird#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a shame; but the dollar speaks loud.  Our house is on the final for Chgo MDW &#038; occasionally we'd HEAR one on final and rush outside to see it fly over, quite low as we are only couple miles out.

Beautiful craft.  Ahh well. I'd put one in my back  yard as a guest house if I could.  That would drive the neighbors nutz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a shame; but the dollar speaks loud.  Our house is on the final for Chgo MDW &#038; occasionally we&#8217;d HEAR one on final and rush outside to see it fly over, quite low as we are only couple miles out.</p>
<p>Beautiful craft.  Ahh well. I&#8217;d put one in my back  yard as a guest house if I could.  That would drive the neighbors nutz.</p>
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		<title>By: cliff</title>
		<link>http://blog.xcski.com/2003/11/14/sad-end-to-a-beautiful-bird#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was looking at some of the pictures on this website and came across the Starship in flight with StarShipOne ......... there's at least one Beech Starship still flying.

http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/New_Index/photos/photos_text.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was looking at some of the pictures on this website and came across the Starship in flight with StarShipOne &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; there&#8217;s at least one Beech Starship still flying.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/New_Index/photos/photos_text.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/New_Index/photos/photos_text.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rants and Revelations</title>
		<link>http://blog.xcski.com/2003/11/14/sad-end-to-a-beautiful-bird#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Rants and Revelations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/000117.html&lt;/strong&gt;

Rants and Revelations: Sad end to a beautiful bird This month's Flying magazine has more about the Starship. They don't mention anything about a limited airframe lifetime. They say that Raytheon/Beech just found it too expensive to keep supporting them...
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<p>Rants and Revelations: Sad end to a beautiful bird This month&#8217;s Flying magazine has more about the Starship. They don&#8217;t mention anything about a limited airframe lifetime. They say that Raytheon/Beech just found it too expensive to keep supporting them&#8230;</p>
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